Clear and Muddy Loss of Love

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A natural moat called the Luo river split the great land into two. Jing of the north, and Wei of the south.

One was the Prince of the grass plains who had no worries nor sorrow. One was a lawful Princess who received exclusive favour of the Emperor.

A war turned the Prince of the grass plains into an orphan, she who had laid dormant for ten years had originally planned to become a sycophantic official, to manipulate the enemy kingdom into chaos, but was appointed as Fuma at the Chionglin banquet.

Wait and see, how this debt of grudge from a fallen kingdom and devastated home will be settled.

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Jing Wei Qing Shang
JWQS
Kính vị tình thương
Revenge of the Prince
Truly Love Wrongly Given
Two Adamant Hearts
泾渭情殇
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RygentNation
RygentNation rated it
October 24, 2020
Status: Completed
Hullloo,

Another masterpiece of GL CN novel, I must say. The storyline, the characters, the translation quality, are just top notch!!!

Highly recommended to read! (I binge read this and regret finishing it so soon 😂)
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Namelesswudangman
Namelesswudangman rated it
January 17, 2024
Status: --
Mm I enjoyed this series much more than the other one. The characters are better written and interesting politics.

Its unfortunate that author likes to drag and add on unnecessary bits to the story. I find this especially true when it comes to the third half of the story. Many new unneeded character that could have simply a reuse of the old one.

One thing I found truly controversial through out the series, is the implication of grooming and bedding someone who is mentally unwell and calling it as a romance, even... more>> when they supposedly found happy ending in the end. Trauma bonding or not, I found that whole section quite hard to process.

Its quite disappointing that the author fell into the same pitholes as many cnovel author.. Just in reverse order. Men in her novel are often written in a more 2dimensional manner or they will have interesting background only to be simplified to a trope in the end. I understand it's a genre about women empowerment but it would have made it an even better series should the characters were given the same treatment and depth despite their genders.

Such as the idea she had about the emperor that she mentioned in the author notes, that spirit seems to be quickly dissipated when a certain woman was introduced into the series. I think it could have been more poetic if the duality of the characters are kept consistent throughout the series. I noticed a similar issue in her other series. <<less
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Owllison
Owllison rated it
September 14, 2023
Status: Completed
This is such an amazing novel! Definitely one of my favorite translations as well, so thank you to the translation team!

The characters are so well-developed, especially the main pairing, and each of their motives feel so real and compelling. I absolutely adore Agula's character, and though I was indifferent to Jingnu at first, she really captured my heart by the end. This is by far the best lesbian pairing I've read, and I love how the plot takes priority without shoehorning in the romance.

It is an *extremely* slow burn, but... more>> if you have the patience for longer stories and political intrigue, I highly recommend this novel! <<less
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hela2851
hela2851 rated it
February 25, 2023
Status: c1-10
Another banger from PDL and great translation by melts. It's basically one of those 'pics taken seconds before disaster' memes that goes on to include the disaster itself and the devastation of the aftermath, stretched out over 300+ chapters. Real 'trainwreck you can't look away from' stuff - with yuri.

My one issue is the ending. The only reason I was able to stick it out through all horrible stuff that happens is because we were repeatedly promised a happey ending. And we did get one. Sort of. But 300 chapters... more>> of schemes, and betrayals, and atrocities, and loss were given a somewhat unsatisfactory conclusion in chapter 303 and barely expanded upon in chapters 305 - 307. Not to mention chapter 304.

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Why even bring up Yanru and Ningxiang (?) if it not to share the reason she changed from kind, exemplary princess to someone who... just wants to see the world burn? 304 was unnecessary but if it had at least given a more concrete motive for Yanru's actions and told just what on earth happened to her in the end, it would've at least had the merit of giving a greater sense of completeness to the narrative that the ending lacked.

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Any of those last 4 chapters could've been replaced with just one chapter describing a scene where the characters we've come to love enjoy each other's company on a joyous occasion
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like that wedding in the remote village

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and maybe a glimpse of their futures.

Based on the endings of this book and of Matrilocal Marriage, and a few mentions of Female General and Eldest Princess that I've seen, the author could improve somewhat with her endings. There's definte talent worth supporting here, however. And I'm eager to see how her writing improves in future works. <<less
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Yoyoarmani16
Yoyoarmani16 rated it
February 7, 2023
Status: Completed
After finishing this novel I'm left with a love of emotion both happy and sad one, starting with the good spoiler free review, the author is simply amazing the amount of detail they put into the story is just incredible almost everything they mention has a meaning and will comeback at some point, and even the most lackluster character end up having meaning and depth, instead of reading a novel the author way of writing will make you feel like you're living it and every part of the main cast... more>> of character will fill like a good friend by the end of it, I don't usually watch or read period pieces the characters are so compelling that all the restrictions of the period didn't bother me like it usually would, I would say this author is a master a grasping what is it that trigger the suspension of disbelief in readers.

Having say that the author is not perfect (obviously), and his weaknesses are pretty bad, I would have never thought that a novel with 303 chapter where most chapter have 6000 words, would have a rushed ending but surprisingly it does and it seems to be a continuous struggle for the author since another novel of them called "Female General And Eldest Princess" suffers from the same problem, I haven't read that one so I don't know how bad it was then but holly Molly it was atrocious here I comment more why in the Spoiler part.

Her other main weakness is they obsession with counting how many words they chapter had (she leaves comments under some of the chapter to let us know of her life and how awful the reader from the original publisher are, which I partially blame for the rushed ending they really made the author like hard, but well, in most of those comments they would mention how many words that chapter had or the whole novel had), I can't really say how much influenced (if any at all) reaching a word count had in the chapter but boy o boy what an exorbitant amount of filler some chapter had, lord jesus, the first 2 extra chapters where especially ridiculous, after having a rushed ending you would think the author would fill some of the plot holes with the extra, instead they wasted the second extra chapter by recounting what happened in the first one but from the point of view of character we don't really care about (is not a biased opinion, this character is mention maybe 5 times in the while novel before the extra ep, is literally someone imposible for us to care about), half the extra chapter wasted when she could just resume it to maybe a page.

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I Really think that the readers from the original publishing page are mostly to blame for the rushed ending, with the way she didn't waste a word up until chapter 280 is impossible to belive she would never mention Nangong Li and Nangong Bao again even when talking about Sunu death with her husband, I know in real life you don't get to tight all lose end in ones life, so I was not hoping for every single plot point to have a resolute ending but at leas "Even with the power of an emperor finding old eight ended up being something imposible for Nangong Jingnu to do before dying" or whatever, literally anything that would let me know that the author didn't forgot them, but we got nothing, same with the princess from the last dynasty we could have got something like "nobody knew if the princess stayed at the north of Luo to live out the rest of her life or if she came back south but for as Long as Agula lived, the princess didn't plot against the kingdom again" I mean she was the main anaragonist, hello?, we have some random mention of the future around the 280 chapter that we didn't need at all but letting us know what happened to the princess was to much to ask? Really? Why tell us her past then? Ridiculous, and couldn't we get a Reunion fronthe twins? A visit from Xiaodie? No?

Whatever I got to emotional at the end, but is so infuriating the author I spend time with for 280 chapter was not the same one that wrote the last 30, and if they was gonna cave in to the criticism of the reader in the original page, she should have cut on the descriptive filler instead of that incomplete ending, or rather since she really enjoy describing everything and she writes the best when she's being true to themselves she should just add 10 more chapters, I think she could fill the holes in that time and it wouldn't mattered to readers the novel was already 300 chapters long (more than 1, 000, 000) everyone who hated of slow of a burn it was was gone anyway. <<less
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520yun
520yun rated it
October 15, 2022
Status: Completed
Clear and Muddy Loss of Love was an amazing read. Thanks to melts for translating and sharing the whole story of Q Yan and Jingnu. I think the romance wrapped nicely in the end but there were a lot of loose ends regarding worldbuilding.
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Towards the end there was an attack on the Wei kingdom during the Winter and once the river thawed the story shifted to focus on Qi Yan and the story kind of ended like that. I wish we got to see the end of the princess from the old dynasty because I don't believe she wouldn't have launched another attack the next Winter. I wish her character and personality were explained more.

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The slowburn was so good especially watching the main cp change over the course of many years, especially Jingnu's development and how Qi Yan slowly falls in love with her.
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icosae
icosae rated it
March 10, 2022
Status: Completed
Genuinely the best romance that I've ever read, this is an enemies to lovers slow-burn angst filled nightmare dream sequence that's so wonderfully thought out and clever. Please there's nothing more to say, please read it.

ps. I felt so empty after finishing this that I still don't think I'm fully over it like a year later
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yooa_12
yooa_12 rated it
January 8, 2022
Status: c1-10
okay, sooo I finished reading the novel a few days ago but I forgot to write my review.

I would give 5 stars to the characters, bc they were really well developed, each one of them was interesting and felt real, they made mistakes, they fall in love, they get sad, they get angry, they get happy. It was very good in this aspect. Qiyan and jingnu are very smart women, although they are very impulsive, specially jingnu, but they have their goals and motivations, and I like that of them.

jingnu... more>> had a really grand char development, and I felt like I was my child growing up, she went from a reckless, pampered girl, to a magnanimous and strong woman, that was amazing.

qiyan always resorted to arson, which I find funny haha, but she's so very smart, so intelligent, like wow, I was amazed by her, how she plots so many things far ahead, that's whew-

the side characters were also pretty good, specially the shifu, I like her a lot. About the nangong sisters, I didn't really enjoy Shunu's development, I felt it lacked a bit more impact, her first half of her story was so heart wrenching and I was looking forward to her growth, but I felt it underwhelming. Howeverrr Sunu!!! She's so perfect, , , , i- she's the best eldest sister, she's funny, she's smart, dedicated and strong, *cries*

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I understand she had to die because the past dinasty princess was born from a "star of bad luck" and she would bring tragedy to her loved ones, , , , but I still can't accept that sunu died just like that

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About the plot, I give it 5 stars too. It shows that the author was very meticulous with it, she took care of details and she planned it a lot. I never got bored, since something was always happening, there was drama everywhere. Yet I never got bored, or didn't understand or it wasn't clear enough or nonsensical.

For the pacing I give it 4 stars, because everything was very cool, but I didnt like how the author closed up thing, I felt it was so rushed, like she wanted to finish asap and left many plot holes for the side characters. You couuld also say it's an open ending for the rest, , , , and I dont like that kind of endings

Just gotta mention if you're not into slow burn, like REAL slowburn, you probably shouldn't read this, because it's more about politics, court drama, and revenge, than the actual romance, which starts veeeeery later on the story and it's really slow <<less
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MegumiTan
MegumiTan rated it
August 31, 2021
Status: Completed
This is simply a really good novel. The characters grow so much from the beginning to the end, but sincerely love each other leading to a slightly bittersweet (but satisfying) ending together. The plotting is sublime and there are no plot holes. Overall an excellent read and would recommend it not only for the romance but the impeccable historical drama as well.
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keigo
keigo
July 28, 2021
Status: Completed
PAIN INCARNATE but I love them both so much.
The writing was exquisite. The character development was superb.
The ending wasn't quite as satisfying as what I wanted but I believe it's the ending necessary for the novel to maintain it's tone. What I can only say is that, the pain and suffering you'll gonna go through while reading this is very much worth it.

Thank you for your hard work, PDL and Melts!
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MeineMeow
MeineMeow rated it
June 20, 2021
Status: Completed
A MASTERPIECE

I thought I won’t find a good yuri stories after female general, but I was soooo wrong!

For people who love fluffy and straightforward stories, this definitely not your cup of tea. This story expand from the era before qiyan agula and nangong jingnu, until their end. 30 years of history between two kingdom, between kings and official. A stroy about deep love, family, friendship, grudge and revenge.

The char definitely not perfect. For you who wants a pure love and noble char, you won’t find it here. Everyone have flaws,... more>> they grow up yet never be a perfect ideal person. But this what makes this novel is so beautiful and thoughtful.

You will read qiyan agula changed from a proud warrior descendant of grass plain tribe into a sinister official infiltrate a kingdom for the sake of revenge. You’ll read nangong jingnu grow from a pampered princess into a strong woman. Every change bring the goodness and also disappointment. As you know, grow up means you have to abandoned pure childish view in your youth.

Their love is not something stays in words, actions show them, but sometimes the realization comes too late. It makes me cry so many times.

Honestly, qiyan agula paid too much, too heavy price, for a single happiness in her life. She suffer too many loss, yet she still help so many people (commoners of her rival kingdom), learn to give up her revenge, only to get nangong jingnu’s love. Is it worth it? Some readers might say yes, some will say no. I myself can’t decide, since i’m not that great.

But all I know, this story is so beautiful and the plot is smart. Hail the author! <<less
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lasthorizon
lasthorizon rated it
June 8, 2021
Status: c283
I just... can't anymore. Over 280+ chapters later and I'm throwing in the towel. This novel is just WAY too bloated and draggy in the middle. The author could have easily taken out 100 chapters and the results would be the same. I skimmed through a lot. I was excited to start and finish this too. Court conspiracy lesbians, who could resist? But the fact that it took so, so, so long for Qi Yan to finally be revealed just made it so frustrating because Jingnu thinks she's in love... more>> with a man for 2/3 of the novel. Also, Qi Yan is just too perfect, her schemes are always so flawless and things rarely ever go wrong. No one is her equal unless the story calls for one for the sake of convenience. It's just not realistic and there are no stakes at all.

I had more interest in er-jie Nangong Shunu's transformation. The fact that she was an unfavored daughter who was forced to suffer in a loveless marriage for so long and then found her true self in the end was just a much better character arc for me to follow. I got way too attached to her story but was disappointed that there was barely anything there to extract. We only get glimpses of her story with Xiao-Die.

Anyway, knowing that it's a happy ending I'll just happily drop this. There were some parts that felt very angsty and delicious between the two of them and it's out in the open but for the majority of it it's always just in Qi Yan's head. It's too unsatisfying. The writing is excellent and the translation is good. The author is so meticulous in her research and detail so I didn't want to give this a low rating. <<less
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messbiscuit
messbiscuit rated it
May 12, 2021
Status: --
Mixed reviews but thats expected. If I were to be honest I'd give this a 3.9 but the work itself it's not bad and the writing is superb with the detailed background with cool scenes that is very easy to image.. (shootout to Melts for the amazing translation). Halfway kind of feel a bit boring and some parts are being stretched out too long. CP is... angst. feel a bit childish with the the few misunderstanding but thats alright. The moments together is sweet and heart gripping that you just... more>> want MORE, lol.

It gets full 5/5 because we need more GL works and I like the characters. <<less
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OctoberGrey
OctoberGrey rated it
March 6, 2021
Status: c10
Excellent start but the story dragged on as it progressed. The chapters are dense with descriptions and fillers that could be cut down to move the story along. And while Qi Yan was well written, I was annoyed by Jingnu's wavering and conflicting decisions. She always refuses to think about things on a deeper level. This part of her character never really changed and caused so much tragedy in this story. Actually a lot of filler scenes could have been avoided if she was just a bit more discerning.

Some plot... more>> points were left open ended - like Jiya and the masked person. The latter rarely stepped out of the shadows. I was expecting a battle of wits between the entire kingdom and the masked person - but it never panned out.

All things considered, this was a half-decent story with an interesting setting and believable characters, but it is bogged down by unnecessary details. You can skim through the last quarter without missing too much. <<less
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Neko_Paisen
Neko_Paisen rated it
February 19, 2021
Status: Completed
Truly one of the best novels I've ever read!!!!💗💗 The character development of the main characters is just right and I'm very satisfied with the ending, this heart-stopping novel of vengeance, grief, and eternal love will latch onto your heartstrings and never let go. It'll make you an absolute mess of emotions. Prepare yourself and prepare some tissue ˚‧º· (˚ ˃̣̣̥⌓˂̣̣̥) ‧º·˚

The author never fails to impress me. Also big kudos to the translators for this masterpiece 🤗💗
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marunib
marunib rated it
December 11, 2020
Status: Completed
(i actually finished this last month but the novel took so much out of me I didn’t make a full review yet </3)

sigh. Jing wei qing shang. How do I even explain what this novel did to me and why I still love it so much.

pdl (the author) reminded people in the author notes multiple times that her story has a happy ending, so don’t worry. But honestly I thought she was lying. That’s how severe the situation got sometimes. Even though the angst/tragedy levels got really high... more>> at times, it always had a purpose. Pdl never adds angst to her stories for no reason/shock value, in my opinion.

qi yan is definitely a character who could be classified as a villain. She does a lot of bad things. Though personally I see her as more morally grey than fully evil. Nangong jingnu started off very childish (i mean she WAS a child) and naive, and I never would have expected the way her character developed, but I absolutely loved it. Qijing’s relationship is an interesting one and I do love it, I wouldn’t say it was healthy persay for a good chunk of the story. Though that’s to be expected with the plot and the situation they’re in.

i have to say the one thing I don’t like about this novel is the age gap in the beginning. I understand it’s due to historical accuracy I believe? But i’m personally not a fan of it. I’m glad that (for the most part) it wasn’t written weirdly and they didn’t do a lot of stuff until they were much older, but still! Please don’t take this as me condemning the whole novel I just wanted to make note of it.

now, why should you consider reading this novel? It has amazing characters, plot, it will have you on the edge of your seat. It will probably make you cry, and if not that it will definitely be a story you won’t ever forget. It might even make you laugh in rare moments. Chances are you’ll be cursing the author because how dare she do this to you and her own characters. This novel make you consider a lot. It might even make you believe in the power of love a little bit more.

last but not least, I also want to give huge thanks to melts for translating jwqs and the other novels she has done! Her skills are truly phenomenal. <<less
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hualiancore
hualiancore rated it
November 21, 2020
Status: Completed
It's a long, long journey to be invested in, for starters. You'll need to be prepared for a story that has never-ending plot twists and strategic planning and complicated politics. I think the first half of the story was so good, had me hooked for days, but there reaches a certain point when everything becomes a lot slower. The angst and anger will frustrate you but it's worth it to reach the end, just for Qi Yan and Nangong Jignu. I read PDL's Female General and Eldest Princess and I... more>> can see the similarities but more of the differences - there are some parts I disliked, but it's left a huge impact on me and I will think about this every so often, so I recommend if you're looking for a plot-heavy baihe novel!

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I HATED THE ENDING NGL?!?!! first of all, without the extras, I was just completely lost and gasping because I couldn't believe thats what pdl decided to do to qijing... ALL 300 chapters of jwqs, and we resulted in a fake death, hidden away, then reunited. I don't understand it, the pain was good but it almost seemed unnecessary.. like they just had to have One Last issue between them. anyways half way through I had to put this on hold for 3 months it became something I procrastinated to read so that kinda s**ked <<less
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AngelKnighz2lips
AngelKnighz2lips rated it
September 27, 2020
Status: c120
*breathes in, then breathes out*

Having read this story it got me riled up to the point that I overreact to what the author has written on a certain chapter and even causing me to get so engrossed that I forgot the numbing pain in my hand when I saw the lead characters opposing one another on a certain chapter.

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I mean like! WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Chapter 111-120 was the part that I was on that when I read about Qi Yan sending her sister's son faraway to another place.

I was like, "you could've just kept it! You could've just found another way instead of going in a roundabout step that wouldn't have had involved in sending your sister's son away!" Like, I get it. This story is a slow burn just like Female General and Eldest Princess and it's the author's right to write the kind of story they would like to have readers to read.

No offense but does the author take pleasure in hearing their reader's agony when a certain event went against their expectations? Just putting that out there......

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All in all, I don't know if I can take another angsty and dark chapter again as I wonder if continuing this story is even good for my healthy and young heart. But! Despite the author's way in giving us such angsty story, how the author brings out each characters' growth and emotion is enough to make one feel like they are real. Like, REAL REAL... <<less
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KuroHachi
KuroHachi rated it
September 21, 2020
Status: Completed
5/5 One of my favourite.

I can only bow to this author. The way the author can take out the essence of the characters and make it shine is a masterpiece. As if, those characters are really living their lives, not like those robot npc-like behaviour that talk only for the sake of it. Truly a masterpiece.

As for the story, like the others has said, be prepared. It will not be a pleasant journey. Plus if you add the author skills I mention above, it'll have more impact. If you compare... more>> it to the "Female General and the Eldest Princess" (from the same author), you'll notice it's way, waaaaaay more heavy. Prepare for angst.

At last if I was ever asked to read this novel again, I will answer with a: No. Unless...

Unfortunately the author has taken out too much and given in too little. As a reader, my heart suffered from the story, from the characters... I sincerely wished there could be more reward of good and light at the end, to indulge myself for reading such a heavy story... It's really just my only complaint. <<less
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shirotan
shirotan rated it
September 1, 2020
Status: Completed
This. Novel. Is amazing.

I literally spent three whole DAYS binge reading this because the characters, the plot gripped my attention from the very beginning.

And I couldn't wait to see if there was truly a happy ending at the end.

So much angst T_T and the character development! I could FEEL the characters emotions. The author who wrote this is sooooo talented and the translators did an AMAZING job. If you're looking for a riveting tale of true love, look no further.
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