Devil Venerable Also Wants to Know

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In a Mary-Sue novel, the readers all liked the Devil Venerable, the second male lead who devoted himself whole-heartedly to the female lead. However the female lead only loved the male lead who abused her physically and mentally.

Readers: Why doesn’t the female lead like the Devil Venerable?!

Devil Venerable: This Venerable also wants to know. But what I really want to know is why I even like the female lead at all.

In order to understand why the female lead wasn’t attracted to him, the self-conscious Devil Venerable brutally interrogated the entire cast of characters from the novel.

Background characters: I have so many things I want to say but I don’t dare to say it to his face!

After obtaining the book, the Devil Venerable discovered that the book described the world he lived in. This book said that after he sacrificed himself for the female lead, the fourth male lead, his silent and loyal subordinate Yin Hanjiang, blackened and attempted to kill her as a sacrificial offering for his lord.

Devil Venerable Wenren E: Yin Hanjiang, this Venerable wants to know why you wanted to kill the female lead.

Yin Hanjiang was silent.

Wenren E: If you refuse to speak, this Venerable will cut out your tongue and have it with alcohol!

Yin Hanjiang: …

Wenren E: What the hell are you blushing for?!

Associated Names
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Ma Tôn Cũng Muốn Biết
Mozun ye xiang zhidao
จอมมารก็อยากรู้เช่นกัน
本尊也想知道
魔尊也想知道
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Latest Release

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10/21/21 mourningcrow c82
10/20/21 mourningcrow c81
10/18/21 mourningcrow c80
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Review
238 Reviews


NightfoxRiveria
New NightfoxRive
Mar 23, 2024
Status: c82
One of the greatest things I’ve read so far. MC is funny (depending on humor and most of it is situational) and manipulative but he keeps a clear head. It’s a bit of a detective novel as MC follows the plot line before the actual story takes place to make improvements. I’m just happy this wasn’t one of those ‘kill the original protagonist’ and drive them into insanity. It was more of a uncover their true face and make them fall into a trap of their own hubris. So good... more>> novel <<less
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Celissiye
New Celissiye
Mar 22, 2024
Status: Completed
Rating: 4.8

Solid story and characters.

I love how MC/ML are both relatively evil; it's great. The MC is unapologetically apathetic and logical but blunt manner of speaking the truth is endearing. The MC is the top, which is never explicitly shown but you can tell by the way the author describes the 'after' scenes, although there is a chance they could be a switch couple. There is no smut besides kissing. The story didn't need it. The ML is likable as well. He's the loyal will-kill-for-you kind of guy who is... more>> very protective and respectful of MC.

The plot is well thought out and ties up perfectly at the end, with a length of 80 chapters that lets you enjoy the story without becoming overly convoluted. No annoyingly long flashbacks, just enough to get an idea how the MC and ML grew up. Rare BL story with two complex characters that stayed green flag romance-wise all the way.

There is also enjoyment in the side characters. It was somehow cathartic to see how the female lead chose to live her life at the end. The other female characters in this story were legit too. One kept a harem of men and was power hunger while one was a brainless skeleton. I actually wish they got more attention and agreed with the 'comment section' of the novels within the story on them. Like if the story was 20 chapters longer just to give them tiny character arcs I would've read that sh*t in an instant.

A couple minor quips:

Yes the entire premise is that the MC has the books and can see what happened and I like how it's explained as alternate worlds, but sometimes I felt like the story focused too much on explaining what happened before and how the female lead reacted, what the male did etc. I wanted a tad more focus on what the MC and ML were doing. You know, 'show not tell'. This is why I can easily get bored with transmigration/second chance after dying stories, they usually rely too heavily on summarizing what already happened and what will happen, nevertheless this is probably one of the best I've read. MC was certainly a great mastermind for it all, but he also felt a little untouchable. I didn't feel that he was in any real danger with all the knowledge he possessed except once or twice in the story.

Second quip is the relationship progression. I loved them both overall, but I felt like the final confession/they are a real couple now scene was a little too fast. It felt like once the ML got over a major hurdle of accepting the MC's feelings, the story was kind of done and they got together instantly without any last difficulties or trials. Throughout the story ML got way more attention on how he was feeling and was way more emotionally vulnerable than the MC. I would have liked to see a bit more drama in the last part with the MC's feelings. The ML has been head over heels for the MC for countless chapters but I didn't feel like the MC had an iota of issues with his own feelings. He got kissed by the ML and was like 'Oh. Yep. I'm 100% on board with this.' Which DOES fit his personality, he's a very rational guy, but I wished he acted a bit more I don't know... uncertain or at least flustered about it since he'd never been in love before and hated the idea of falling for someone early on in the novel. Still---it's just a minor complaint.

I hadn't read a BL novel in a long while and I made a good choice binging this one.

Damn, this is not something I usually say with light novels but I think this one could've been extended 20 chapters or so just to flesh out the side characters a bit more and to give a bit time with MC and ML as official partners. It was that good. <<less
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Efu-sama
Efu-sama
Feb 06, 2021
Status: Completed
Warning:

Complaining that you can't find any sweets when the place you came to actually is a Hotpot restaurant, is ridiculous. So after reading this, don't complain about not finding any s*x or heated romance when the novel is Shounen-ai :)

Now that I have finished this novel, I'd like to sprinkle a little debris off my mind here as well. I agree with one of the reviewers here. "It's not a mind-blowing novel, a novel that left you in a daze for a few days unable to face reality. But! It's truly a good novel! One that is new, refreshing, and satisfying. Worthy of the position being rated almost 5 stars."

Something that I love most by reading this novel is, the realization of my impression of "What is... more>> Devil Venerable, What is the Supreme Lord of Evil, " when you hear the words itself?

  1. Is it----A character with a blackened personality, the patient of Chuunibyou disease "I hate the world and I want to destroy it" ?
  2. Is it----A character with a black-bellied tendency, looked soft and kind on the outside, extremely evil on the inside. Only good in front of the Love Interest, and ruthless in front of others ?
  3. Or is it----A Heaven Defying role, a Devil Venerable in name only, but with a characteristic of a Great Buddha ?
NOPE.

Not one of the list above is the Devil Venerable in this novel.

The MC in this novel, the Gong in this novel, Devil Venerable Wenren'E is:

  1. Someone who is stronger than any leader, wiser than any leader. When we heard the title of Venerable, most of us will expect them to be an awesome and charismatic leader, but in other novels, the authors usually make a blunder somewhere and ruin our expectations. While here, Wenren'E totally deserves his title!
  2. Someone who doesn't have the heart of a Buddha, but doesn't have the mind of the Devil either. Then, what is he? Simply a HUMAN. He's not ridiculously kind like a Saint, nor is he weirdly Evil like a Demon. He's just Human. But because he's human then he's worthy of his name as the Venerable, as the Lord. Because Human was granted to have the Brain and Heart, hence Wenren'E is capable of being logical and also compassionate at the same time. Human is the most capable of growing and learning. Therefore, Wenren'E is a character who truly learnt from past experiences, and is the portrayal of human growth in many senses. His capabilities to learn, understand, adapt, and grow, truly fascinate me be it in the flashback or his current life.
  3. Because he's HUMAN, he's someone who neither sides with the "Evil faction", nor sides with the "Righteous faction". It's the society and the world in general that he cared for. Wenren'E here didn't become a demonic sect leader because he is inclined to do evil, neither did he do it for some kind of secretly pure and righteous reason. He became a cultivator to stay alive, he cultivated unorthodox cultivation to evolve, and he became a demonic sect leader to strive forward. He is someone with a firm resolution and a broad mind, understanding the cause and effect, and is very particular about the cycle of karma in the world. His character setting is impressive and awe-inspiring.
  4. He's a great leader. Someone who said, "I don't care if you want to usurp my throne or not, I only care if you are competent or incompetent in my Sect." What he asked his subordinate is not undying loyalty towards him, but only a competent job. Contributing and competent to the organization (sect), do their job properly, and do not neglect their position. If they can do those things properly, whether they are loyal to him or not it doesn't matter. He is undoubtedly someone who will push his organization to fly to the sky during his reign, lol.
  5. Devil Venerable is someone who is fascinating. He is the type of leader who is willing to be spurned by the masses in a certain period, only to do something that will actually be praised in the far future. Devil Venerable Wenren'E here is truly a Venerable I have been portraying in my mind. His character truly deserves the title of VENERABLE.
This novel is not mind-blowing, but it's satisfying. This novel will give you the satisfaction you can't get from the mainstream XianXia genre.

It's not a BL novel with the hints of XianXia.

It's a XianXia novel with the hints of BL.

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chenjiaan
chenjiaan
Sep 08, 2021
Status: --
The novel is a fun ride that parodies a lot of cnovel tropes. It's more focused on plot than romance, but that comes with the territory since it's more about correcting common plotholes or tropes as opposed to setting up romantic encounter.

I have to say, this novel was brought to my attention because it's being shared around as an example of a "translator" (though it pains me to call them a translator) doubling down on being wrong and actually CHANGING parts of the ORIGINAL novel to fit their Google translation... more>> mistakes because they refused to admit they were wrong.

If you are reading the translation by ontimestory, be warned that they have actually changed parts of the original novel because they made several major mistakes early on and refused to correct them despite being told by native Chinese speakers they were wrong. I have never seen a "translator" double down so hard on being wrong before, but there really is a first for everything.

What did they translate wrong? Aside from a million issues that comes with using Google to translate a novel, literally the names of the main character.

Wenren E/闻人厄. Wenren/闻人is a compound surname. Just like Baili from Baili Qingmiao is a compound surname. E/厄 is literally his name. It is not "He", it is literally "E" His name is literally 厄. You can plug 厄 into any Chinese dictionary on the planet and you will never come out with 厄 as "He".

Zhongli is also a compound surname, but just like with Wenren, ontimestory intentionally mistranslated it as Zhong, and the Zhong clan despite the text explicitly saying Zhongli clan. This is basic stuff, you can literally go to Wikipedia and see a list of Chinese compound surnames and find Wenren, Baili, and Zhongli listed there.

And why am I making this callout? Normally I wouldn't care if one translator has a ton of mistakes in their own translation, but I actually corrected the book description on the novelupdates page so it has the CORRECT names and SOMEBODY changed it back to the WRONG version. If you want to use the wrong names in your own head, fine. But the description on novelupdates are meant to reflect what's ACTUALLY in the book so stop trying to force your own wrong version on everyone else. <<less
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YellowNoodle
YellowNoodle
May 26, 2020
Status: Completed
If I had to describe this novel it would be a breath of fresh air.

The story is engaging and there is never a dull moment. Events occur one after another and at the same time.

The author ties the plot seamlessly together and as you read on, the knots begin to untangle allowing the cycle of retribution, cause and effect, to come into play. It really shows the true path of cultivating to ascend to the immortal realm.

... more>> Within the story are common, but popular genres mixed with the author's own originality.

All characters have a role to play and they all take different actions to deviate from the "plot".

In other words, they fight against destiny.

Of course some characters succeed and some don't but it's certainly an upgrade from 1 dimensional characters.

There isn't much to say about our two main protagonists other than that they're extremely wholesome. The author does well "developing the plot" and their relationship. It's a double entendre ;)

This certainly deserves to be in the upper ranks of BL novels on this site. Yes, it's a must read.

All the elements of satisfaction is present. (Except the lack of papapa *sighs*)

100/10

Enjoi and Adieu!

Spoiler

What I loved most about this was the equality between the two protagonists.

When I read Yaoi, there will always be similar trends for both Japanese and Chinese novels on who the gong (seme) and Shou (uke) is.

But despite being a major avid yaoi reader and having a level 100 knowledge on who pushes down the who, I will admit I couldn't tell.

I had an inkling to who the gong is but the fact that the author mixed up the typical "trends" of Chinese BL novels was just amazing.

It really shows that both the protagonists are equal. They're men. People on the immortal path fighting against destiny. Going against fate.

It was really spectacular. But of course, if you're a level 100 yaoi reader, your inkling to who the gong is becomes certainty.

Why? Well, the two descriptions highlighting someone's "slim waist" is more than enough to give it away.

Although, I have a kink for loyal subordinates pushing down their masters, Yin Hanjiang is really too submissive.

You guessed it.

The Gong is our venerable Wen Renhe.

I should have determined it earlier as this man showed signs of his domineering personality ahaha. I guess this is one of the things that fall under the realm of being "typical" in BL

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wistful
wistful
Jul 03, 2021
Status: Completed
Excellent novel that subverts a lot of common tropes and playfully parodies popular plotlines for women and men. Like many of the author's other works, the story has tons of humorous moments and well fleshed out side characters. What I enjoy most is how you can really get into the MC's head and sees how he attempts to use logic and reason out plans, but also you as a reader can see the parts where he's missing the point.

The story starts out like a typical parody novel, but everything starts... more>> coming together and I was forced to change my opinions of characters. I started out disliking BLQM and HWZ but started changing my mind and feeling pity for them. It's a deep dive into how your actions only make sense from your perspective, but from someone else's it seems insane or irrational.

Regarding translation quality, the ontimestory translation is edited MTL. There are a lot of inaccuracies and complete mistranslations, often bungling noun adjuncts in sentences and flat out mistranslating what's happening. The entire section with the rou lingzhi is a nightmare. They also don't seem to understand what a compound surname is, which is strange because there are parts in the novel that make it explicitly clear that Wenren is a compound surname, and he even talks about a Wenren clan... but they chose to ignore that and mistranslated it as the Wen clan.

I was so happy to see it picked up by another translator, mourningcrow, who has a much better understanding of Chinese. <<less
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whitespade
whitespade
Dec 07, 2020
Status: Completed
This novel able to tell narrate dao, cause and effect, and the cycle of destruction and rebirth in 80 chapters where an Er Gan novel barely able to do that in 1000chapters.

It has very thought out and logical plot and characters with consistent personality that act according to their own directives. The novel able to deconstruct the illogical plot and inconsistent characters in typical stallion and romance novel and create a narrative where we could understand more why FL could be so brainless and why ML could be so domineering.

This... more>> is a BL that everybody could read even if someone only read stallion novels specifically - and these kind of readers may find more enjoyment from seeing the typical tropes in another point of view. The MTL is acceptable but should be attempted for more experienced readers as some phrases are too jumbled. <<less
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XxShining_HopexX
XxShining_Ho
May 15, 2020
Status: Completed
Same author as they say I've encountered a ghost and sharing system, so you know this is gonna be good.

Tags are off, I'd say this is a soft shounen ai and not a yaoi, and the story is sooo good. A relatively quick read with long chapters.

MC receives a book from the heavens and eventually discovers that all is not as it seems. He decides to intervene with the events in the book to change the fate of him and his very loyal partner.

The relationship between the two them... yin... more>> hanjiang is sooo cute :) and MC eventually realizes he loves ML too and promotes him to his equal. #mutualrespectandlove

Just read it, you won't regret it. <<less
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anonmily
anonmily
Jun 20, 2020
Status: Completed
Oh! I read this one on jjwxc in Chinese, so I’m so happy to see it being translated now. It’s a great story, and the relationship is definitely not anything like that of the stereotypical aeffeminate bottom/as*hole top. The MC might be a Venerable Devil, but I wouldn’t call him evil per say... In fact he sees some things more clearly than all others. The ML starts out with this strong inferiority complex and channels all his love for the MC into loyalty at first because he is so afraid... more>> of disappointing him. But the MC gradually heals his broken soul and puts the pieces back together, accepting all the ugly parts of the process and giving the ML his trust and love. The relationship is definitely not one-sided and you can feel their love and dedication to each other. My only complaint is that it is too short......D: All in all, highly recommended. <<less
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vvreath
vvreath
May 30, 2020
Status: Completed
I loved the concept so much I mtled the raws and honestly. I loved it. It has all my favorite tropes and the main couple are so, , , , , heartwarming. Unlike other novels that kind of? Are stereotypical and are fun to read, but are irl kind of, , , , , , red flags?
Spoiler

Even though Bai Li and Wen Chao are the more explicit example of the author subverting those scum tropes w/ their ending, you can also see it with our main cp.

In this genre, with their statuses? W/ their personalities? Its expected that Wen Ren He would use his power and Yin Han Jiang's loyalty against YHJ, or YHJ would, in his obsession, become obsessive and yandere and black bellied? And? Don't get me wrong, he absolutely is obsessive and he is blackbellied, but never at WRH, and its v understandable and in some ways justified in their world.

Despite all of that and the trend of toxic / realistically manipulative and abusive relationships in this type of novel, the ending of the main cp is really f*cking happy? They trust and support each other, understand each other, Abd tho they have the ability to take advantage of and manipulate each other, both, esp WRH take great efforts to understand each other and emphasize and grow, and YHJ's growth from WRH's tool to his equal, in life and standing is, , , , , good. I'm emotional. They acknowledge their flaws and work to fix them and what they lack in they make up for in each other.

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The only complaint I had was that it felt short, but that been mtl and just my general enjoyment wanting more. Perhaps the pacing was a bit fast? I will not say this is a masterpiece, not something that will blow your brains and make you question your life and impact your life, BUT not everything needs to be. This is a very solid, VERY HEALTHY depiction of growth and love, steady and nice.

As a bonus, all the female side characters are all so good, and there's no h*mophobia from either the readers or the characters.
Spoiler

no one blinks an eye when the main cp get together, at least not bcs of their genders. There are even ppl shipping the heroine with some of the other female supporting cast and its so cute lol. There is some b*tchy fighting over Men, but there are ALSO women supporting each other and making their way in life w/o- what Shu Yan Yan does, what Qiu CongXue does, and what Bai Li Qiangmao ends up doing in the end.

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All in all, an enjoyable read and honestly? This is a novel I would recommend to someone who doesn't normally read bl, bcs it doesn't come off as weird or fetishy at all. 5/5
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jklm
jklm
Jan 09, 2021
Status: c16
A hilarious beginning. I love how the story starts with the MC discovering that his world is that of a bad novel, with it appearing to his subordinate (the ML) that the MC has gone into seclusion to read a tr*shy romance. Even better is the main goal he comes up with: "After three days of meditation, he made up his mind to find out why Baili Qingmiao (the FL) was so brain dead."

The MC is endearing for his curiosity about why the characters act the way they do in... more>> the novel ("Devil Venerate also wants to know!"), not really understanding the emotions that drive them (and the bad plot). He doesn't really understand love as a motivation in the beginning, but what I like is that he puts in effort to understand what he doesn't know (even though he sometimes comes to the wrong conclusions), and really wants to help the FL and his subordinate ML. He doesn't just rush and tell them what to be, but rather slowly encourages them and improves their environment so that they can grow and find a better path.

Other details I like include:

  1. The MC uses the knowledge of the book's plot to find rare resources/treasures, but he pays attention to who in the book originally obtained each item. If it is not something he originally obtained, then he finds a way to repay the person who would have obtained it.
  2. The MC has an interesting way of dealing with the novel's original ML:
    Spoiler

    He keeps setting him up with women so that the FL won't get into a relationship with him and will focus on cultivation instead.

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  3. The story takes karma/debts surprisingly seriously. There are also some pretty interesting side characters, especially in the MC's demonic sect.
In conclusion, a refreshing and fun BL cultivation story. I look forward to more chapters. <<less
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thebadgirl05
thebadgirl05
Mar 18, 2021
Status: --
Just like someone upstairs said, this is a breath of fresh air.

ML isn't necessarily arrogant like the usual. He's super chill, broad-minded, not necessarily cruel but not necessarily kind. If I have to describe it, he seems to be a person who won't bother with superficial steps. He's clear cut and has a vivid character. I also love how logical his thought process is and how he clears up possible misunderstandings with the MC so there's no dog blood drama to abuse the heart.

To me, MC is cute---not the kind... more>> of cute where they're gorgeous and even their toes are cute bla bla. No. His character is like a puppet. He is incredibly dedicated, willing to burn himself to ashes for ML if he needed to. But such a setting doesn't grate on my nerves like how some other character settings of some MC do. He's straightforward, funny sometimes without meaning to, loyal, has a one-minded train of thought of following the ML no matter what.

The devil venerable's other subordinates bring plenty of humour and fun and I love that. I also love the setting of ML. Most novels I've read, demonic ML's basically earn their subordinates and every one else's respect. Here? Not really.

They're demons. The bear children under heaven. Loyalty isn't their thing. They're supposed to be 'evil' but some works try too hard to twist things as if what they did was justified and that they're in the right.

No. The demon's here aren't like that. They own up to their identities.

Lastly, so far, I don't really understand what's up with the female protagonist's s*upid mind. I guess I'll just wait for that to unravel. <<less
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katiethairu33
katiethairu3
Jul 11, 2020
Status: Completed
I MTL'd it. I loved the whole story, setting and the badass characters. I don't feel like writing an in depth review at the moment but it's in my favorite pile of books for sure. I just realized that this author didn't spend an enormous amount of time describing how handsome and beautiful and delicate the main characters were! It's such a relief to get to the story and the meat of it instead of engaging in superfluous imagery. Anyway, definitely worth the read!
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lazykitty_99
lazykitty_99
Jul 13, 2020
Status: Completed
Gem of a novel.

Whether it's story, relationship of leads, side characters, ori fl, I just love everything.

This novel satisfies many genres I like.

... more>> #face slap original novel#

#original novel is filled with uncovered mysteries#

#ori FL isn't bad#

#supporting female characters#

#equal relationship between leads, support each other, mature leads#.

Just loved the growth of ML out of his inferiority and support MC gave him for his recovery..

ML & oriFL are like similar people with their obsessions, what makes it different is their object as MC would never let ML suffer. From that perspective only ML could understand oriFL and help her to come out of her "confusion".

Even though I don't like kind hearted fls but with orifl, I wholeheartedly wished that she could move on from scum of oriML and grow up as a strong person. (Have a big sis mentality for orifl)

Another of my fave character in this novel is Zhong liqian.

I also enjoyed "readers comments".

A must read even if someone isn't a fan of bl. <<less
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Bluepersona
Bluepersona
Sep 10, 2021
Status: Completed
It's time for the demonic cultivators to shine. Trust me, you will love love loveee the side villains (who aren't actually the villains) even though they are evil, cunning, and super weird... they are just so damn funny. At first, you will think 'oh it's quite a predictable plot..', but no it has some serious crazy unpredictable stuff too plus it's a light easy read. I think I was able to only predict one of the twist and rest I was just going with the flow enjoying the 'ohhhhs and... more>> wahhhhs and whahahahas'

Demonic sects vs righteous sects, crazy braindead supporting characters, hot responsible clueless devil MC x Way too loyal, a bit scary but oh soo adorable, somewhere between tsundere and yandere ML, supporting leads being kidnapped, female lead suffering from brain circuit failures aka rag doll (You will know what I mean if you have read it, it's funny), heart demons, healing love, power couple, etc.

My only cons would be that it's short and gives you that feeling at the end of wanting to keep continuing.. but because it's a light and easy read, I still feel the author covered most of what they wanted to tell us, and it kind of leaves you satisfied at the end.

Oh, the backstory and healing part was really handled smoothly, making it more wholesome and made me a bit emotional too which I had not expected cause it's directed more towards comedy. I really like how the author also touched upon mental health issues (yes, we are all slightly dealing with heart demons in our world I think) and the very unique take on the cultivation world and the righteous path. Nevertheless, go read it to have a good time and a bit of laughter, and cry for the 3rd MLs hair fall issues.

PS: All hail secondary leads, they are the best!!!!!!!!!!!! <<less
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holachica
holachica
May 25, 2020
Status: Completed
A really good read. Totally MTL-able. There's not a single moment where I feel anger at the writing or plot, and it's pretty pleasant. It's not an amazing and totally mind-blowing novel, but between 5 or 4 stars, it deserves a 5 (although the official 4.7 on Novel Updates suits it just fine) simply because everything was pleasant. It's decently interesting and enjoyable from beginning to end; not too predictable, and not all that cliche.

My only beef is that there is not enough fluff between the MC and ML.... more>> Not even a fade-to-black s*x scene. They only kiss, like, twice v_v I was totally really for some puppy-dog ML and indulgent domineering MC at the end. Just once chapter would've been fine. But alas... nothing...

Also He Wenchao... can't decide if I hate him or not. He's categorically a 'super good guy', but he also treated the female lead like tr*sh. I mean, he's willing to sacrifice his life to save others, but the thing is... he cheats, and when he cheats, he justifies it with "oh I only LOVE the female lead... so it's fine if my body strays as long as my mind doesn't." He still thinks he was in the right. So I dislike him, but at the same time, he isn't that 'bad' of a guy. He wasn't evil.

He's like that f*ckboy who's really nice to his friends and to his friend-girls (i.e. platonic interests), but when it comes to romantic interests, he's a player. That sort of dude. <<less
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hakuna matata
hakuna matat
May 28, 2021
Status: c3 part1
This is the first ever novel where I've read the MTL'd Without stopping half way through, even though my brain feels like a rollercoaster trying to comprehend the words 😭😭, but it was so good I couldn't stop, and now I'm waiting for the English translation to complete so I can reread it without feeling my brain gonna explode 🤣🤣
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ike_00000
ike_00000
Nov 27, 2020
Status: c14.1
Very interesting story. Not only is the premise unique, the characters are extremely logical and the plot is very interesting.

The thing I most appreciate about this story is how true to character these characters are. MC is not by any means a good guy; he's a genuine Devil Venerable. He doesn't understand emotions and only power and personal strength are worth his time. He's the type of person that would kidnap someone and bind them to someone else physically in order to expedite / cultivate "love".

That's why his romance is... more>> also extremely realistic. It's not guilt and sudden care at all; he realizes his subordinate's true loyalty so he'll show favour, but that doesn't mean falling in love. It's a process of getting to know the other.

I also love the side characters, such as Shu Yanyan. So fun haha.

Very optimistic about this story! Although tbh the overall rating is a bit too high imo, still giving it a 5stars. <<less
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May 10, 2020
Status: c2 part1
So far the story is exactly as the summary describes; about a Devil Venerable who receives a book in which he is a second male lead. His response to it is very logical, he first question why he would fall in love with the female lead and why she would like the male lead. He questions all characters actions and decides to question all book characters including his trusted subordinate Yin Hanjiang in order to understand the situation.

So far it's a very fun read, if the quality doesn't change then... more>> I highly recommend it. ~✧✧✧✧✧~

Ontimestory's translation is once again excellent. ~✧✧✧✧✧~ <<less
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ssangss
ssangss
Dec 01, 2022
Status: c80
Wow.... the fact that I wasted my precious days off to read this, thinking the reviews could be trusted. Yeah, it's not the worse I've ever read but to be rated this high, I thought to myself, "It has to be worth the read, right?" Not at all. This was very sloppily written. The premise was unique enough that I kept reading but this was somehow void of so many emotions because of the way the plot is setup. We already know everything basically at every point of the story,... more>> and by knowing everything we know the important plot points and that it has to end a certain way. The cultivation aspects were dumped like a collapsing shelf of books on the readers and as someone who has read a lot of cultivation novels, I was surprised at how awful this was at immersing us into the world. The locations didn't feel distinct at all. You could almost just erase every name of location and put Location 1, Sect 2, Setting 3 and it wouldn't be much different than the Icy Plains or the Yin Mountain.

Arguably the most emotive scenes were in the soul communion part but even that baffled me because it just seemed so easy, or rather lazy. I guess the good part is this was only 80 chapters and if it were any more, I would probably have to give up finally. But as it was dragging for me, I kept telling myself, "You're so close, it's 80 chapters, just gotta get through this hurdle." Honestly, this story does not like its female characters no matter how much the commenters in story show their appreciation. Another great example of being filled with women in major character roles yet feeling like a horrible marionette show of stereotypes. The seductress, the dumb strong one with a sharp tongue, the Kind Selfless Beauty, YAWN!! Zhongli Qian might have been the best character to come out of this whole story. Wenren E wasn't a real person to me until the second (and last, as you noticed, this supposed long process to cure heart demons took 2 sessions) soul communion. Yin Hanjiang's obsessive love didn't move me at all. Like Wenren E mentioned multiple times in the story, he ignored his "most trusted subordinate" for years.... and mind you this is the course of hundreds of years LOL. This was just.... too messy of a narrative.

Other reviewers are saying that calling it boring isn't fair because it's plot heavy. It has nothing to do with being plot heavy, it's poorly executed. This is what happens when a writer's mind and intention advances past their talent. Like the story says, giving a 3 year old a divine weapon. The premise and plot the author imagined was squandered because they couldn't execute it well. Having a series of books exist that glean into the mysteries of fate and heaven suddenly fall into the hands of the characters is an EXCELLENT premise but... so much about how it was executed shot itself in the foot. The way the characterization is all over the place, the way the Venerable just realizes he shares the same feelings after like a day worth of reflection after spending literal centuries together. It's just not giving what it says it's giving. Half of the chapters could have been deleted and it wouldn't change a thing about this story actually. I feel like reviews on here are loathe to admit when something isn't as good on an objective standpoint. Everyone has different tastes but, I'd like to think you all have read at least some books that aren't webnovels and understand the art of the narrative. This one truly is at most a 3.9 star or 4.0 star... at least by the standards of this website.

The ending was so anticlimactic. I feel so bad for the great stories that ranked lower than this. It still baffles me that priest novels rank so lowly on here despite some of priest's worst stories blowing this one out of the freaking water. Even priest's clumsiest and worst ending ones I didn't feel like I wasted my time on it. Why is this rated so high? Maybe this is the wrong place to judge with a logical mind... after all on another story I read some really braindead conclusions. This is the same space where people treat s*x positions like some sort of attribute you're saddled with like blood type. Or like a personality trait. Maybe wasting my effort writing this proves I'm just as much of a clown as the population I'm criticizing. sighs I guess this is a sign I should finally go and tackle the list of western published books I've been neglecting since ushering in this hobby of reading danmei. <<less
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Shadowminion
Shadowminion
Apr 19, 2022
Status: c40
Firstly, I must say one sentence: if there are novels that you must throw away your brain to enjoy, this is a novel that picks up said brain, dusts it off, and gently squeezes it back into your head.

It's not complicated. It simply addresses the utter s*upidity in certain genres that we have learned to overlook and accept as reasonable. In a way, it targets all the cliches and tropes that have always been the bread and butter of lovebrained novels and hotblooded munchkin harem novels. It's amazing that it... more>> can target both at the same time, fitting everything together in a perfectly reasonable and logical way.

If there's one word that I had to use to describe this novel, it would be: logical.

This is an author who strongly adheres to the belief that everything in this world can be explained through logic as long as you know the full story. And indeed, as more plotholes are unveiled and combed through, reasons that make utter sense start popping out.

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For example: the male protagonist has powerful women falling in love with him left and right. In reality, scarce few of these women are truly in love with him and are more attracted to his body which has special qualities that can promote their cultivation.

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For example: the female protagonist is constantly bumping into treasures and harvesting them back for her beloved protagonist senior brother... well okay, her lovebrain is still incurable but that's due to growing up with said senior brother and being basically groomed by him from young. But she's the reincarnation of a goddess with a heartsickening fate so it's kind of her destiny to be misled and abused like this.

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The story is so logical and everything is due to karma...I really love it because it incorporates a worldly understanding that I feel also suits how cultivation comes to be. Cultivation is about enlightenment, is about understanding the world and yourself and humans more. How can it be that the more you cultivate the dumber you become unless it's some kind of broken brained technique that stifles your cognition to go berserk? As another reviewer mentioned, the title of venerable is also often cheapened in stories so the Devil Venerable really does make me respect him as worthy of this title. <<less
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Alta
Alta
Aug 10, 2021
Status: c59
Really good so far!

Definitely recommend mourningcrow's translation since it reads with more literary sense!
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